各位大神，到底海豹油没有装备过STRIDER的刀呢？

matlab7.0

网上有很多关于海豹部队用刀的传言，有人说“使命”是海豹专用刀，有人说“疯狗”是唯一通过海豹测试的刀，有人说SOG37才是海豹的标准装备（这点好像大家都很认同），还有人说海豹部队选用过STRIDER的刀（好像主要是指BT、MT、WB等）。。。到底海豹们最喜欢用什么刀暂时不去讨论，我就想知道著名坑爹品牌ST有没有被采用过。
我也见过STRIDER有几款刀上面打了SEAL的字样，但据说“打SEAL字样的STRIDER刀就是所谓的日本版，和尼玛海豹部队没有半毛钱关系”
各位大神，难道著名坑爹品牌是纯忽悠？丫的刀根本没有 被海豹部队采用过？或者，只是极少数人队员自买了几把玩玩而已？海豹部队到底有没有采购过STRIDER的刀呢？如果有，是士兵个人行为还是集体采购呢？采购的是什么型号呢？跪求大神解答！！！！

小刀武士

只有问问海豹队员了。。等楼下高人出现！

hao222

别的不知道，打SEAL标的确实就是日本山下刃物定制的版本，跟海豹没关系。

strider源

说说我的了解：
1，海豹装备过的刀有很多，不单单是使命或是其他某一两个牌子，具体可见图，这个图应该是海豹部队历年来列装过的刀型号。
2，再说说使命给海豹列装的mpk。就我所知道的信息，mpk给两个部队列装过，seal（海豹部队）和eod（排爆大队），而且所有真正给部队列装的mpk都是Ti版，没有A2版，而且每支都要经过部队的无磁测试，通过测试后打上部队标记和列装日期才能给士兵使用。所以从这点上来说，这几天在售的海豹标mpk也只是mission公司自己出的海豹纪念版mpk而已，从本质上说和海豹部队没有半毛钱关系。诸如此类的刀比如之前busse的一款海豹标红翼，包括楼主所说的“seal”钢印的strider（比如seal2000和seal2001）。没记错的话sog的seal2000和蝴蝶都有打过seal的标记或是钢印。
3，strider公司确实有几款型号是被部队采用了的，应该是smf和bd好像还有db。具体可以去搜下nsn国家仓储编码，每一种军队采用的刀子都在里面能找到。至于士兵私下采购，那就千奇百怪没法统计了。
以上仅仅是个人所了解的资料，如有错误欢迎探讨

ehmw

应该是个人采购了。公发一定是便宜的装备。或者就像鲁美诺斯军表号称海豹装备的一样，其实实情是鲁美诺斯送了一批给海豹队员用，海豹队员用上以后鲁美诺斯就打广告说是海豹用的。。。

KnifeHQ二掌柜

strider源 发表于 2015-10-26 20:24
说说我的了解：
1，海豹装备过的刀有很多，不单单是使命或是其他某一两个牌子，具体可见图，这个图应该是 ...

Ti的是排磁性水雷用的，像毛子目前还在用铜的潜水刀，像mpk这样的战术刀不会光用来排雷的，如果单单为这个才只采购Ti版mpk只是在增加士兵的负重罢了。应该也有A2版装备

KnifeHQ二掌柜

就资料来看有几款装备过海豹，保罗mantrack1和mantrack2以及军用D9都装备过，毕竟Duane Dwyer有过海豹受训经历

KnifeHQ二掌柜

甚至delta也装备过ST的刀，玩军品的人都知道绿色贝雷帽是个什么样的队伍，这个队伍作风更为强悍

strider源

KnifeHQ二掌柜 发表于 2015-10-26 21:15
Ti的是排磁性水雷用的，像毛子目前还在用铜的潜水刀，像mpk这样的战术刀不会光用来排雷的，如果单单为这 ...

Ti版mpk无磁性且耐腐蚀，所以多用于水下作业和排除爆炸物，所以才会被eod排爆部队和seal看中，但并不代表Ti版mpk就只能用作排雷。
我所掌握的信息和从另外一些老鸟了解到的都说军版mpk只有Ti版，这些都是坊间的说法。再来看官方，mission的官网上分别对Ti版和A2版mpk有介绍，只有Ti版是为了seal和eod部队研发设计的。
但我不是说A2版mpk不好，反而我觉得A2版mpk才是mission的精髓。在刀友圈子，一提起A2，有谁不是第一个想到mission的mpk？就好像一提起O1大家都第一个想到疯狗是一个道理。
另外关于水下用刀，不仅毛子用铜合金做刀，我在楼上就提到了，st的cube合金bd就是专为了eod排爆部队设计的专用刀具，而且确实在nsn仓储号清单中明确写出了这款型号。

matlab7.0

KnifeHQ二掌柜 发表于 2015-10-26 21:27
甚至delta也装备过ST的刀，玩军品的人都知道绿色贝雷帽是个什么样的队伍，这个队伍作风更为强悍

三角洲部队也装备过？
具体是什么型号呢？大神

KnifeHQ二掌柜

matlab7.0 发表于 2015-10-26 22:15
三角洲部队也装备过？
具体是什么型号呢？大神

d9就是其中之一

拾柒开GG

主要看有没有nsn编号

886062

知识贴，期待大神们更多解答

讲讲

不要迷恋海豹，只是个传说

sjt19731208

知识贴，期待大神们更多解答

gogogo

先说说LZ说的SEAL2000和SEAL2001吧。
这俩仅仅是型号，并不是因为装备过海豹而叫这名字。
ST从来没有被大规模的作为军方采购物品，军品首要条件是便宜，而不是质量，ST美国也装备不起，可能有小批量的特殊部队订单。这个东西就很随意了，军方不会去测试质量等性能。我记得有合同号的型号有DBL，SMF，其他款式再没见过，包括专门为潜水部队设计的铜铍合金刀也没见过合同号（这玩意有毒）
要说ST在很多部队照片里出现过，那基本都是个人采购，而且出现频率远远不如BUCK、冷钢和卡密鲁斯高。
玩ST就别和部队联系在一起了，美国超过300刀的刀子，军方不可能大规模采购。

kuhaizi2011

3GO说到重点了，就是成本问题，一般老美不会采用很贵的刀具的，便宜耐操是他们选择的唯一标准

KnifeHQ二掌柜

KnifeHQ二掌柜 发表于 2015-10-26 21:25
就资料来看有几款装备过海豹，保罗mantrack1和mantrack2以及军用D9都装备过，毕竟Duane Dwyer有过海豹受训 .

没有问题

大规模采购肯定不靠谱，小部分的采购和个人采购肯定是有的，毕竟smf军版是货真价实的存在，而且在大美帝st也不可能凭空捏造事实欺骗人吧

strider源

配着楼主的题目正好从其他地方摘一些相关资料。NSN即北约库藏编号，士兵可根据库存内的清单自行选购。下表为截至2006年的北约库藏刀具和其他切割类工具清单：
5110-00-526-8740 Camillus rigger's knife switchblade with cord cutter orange handle
5110-00-530-1757 Camillus rigger's knife with marlinespike 3 1/2 in folding knife with marlinspike
1095-01-533-9377 Camillus X-18 switchblade switchblade knife with black handle
1095-01-493-1793 Camillus CQB CUDA (Close Quarters Battle Knife) 11 inch knife fixed blade
1095-01-493-1802 Camillus/becker tac-tool 7 inch blade fixed blade
1095-01-493-1798 Camillus/becker brute 11 inch knife fixed blade
1095-01-518-6832 Ontario New flier's knife (ASEK Survival knife system) fixed blade with cutter
1095-01-523-1972 Ontario RAT-7 12 inch knife fixed blade
1095-01-506-3424 Ontario usmc ka-bar bayonet 13 inch ka-bar bayonet usmc issue
1095-00-392-4102 Ontario KA-BAR 12 inch ka-bar
1095-01-535-5733 Ontario XM-1S 8 inch folder black handle
1095-01-535-5724 Ontario XM-1 8 inch folder black handle
1095-01-535-5743 Ontario XM-1DS 8 inch folder desert handle
1095-01-535-5733 Ontario XM-1D 8 inch folder desert handle
1095-01-515-9874 Ontario freedom fighter fighting knife ka-bar style fixed blade
1095-01-515-9893 Ontario navy/divers knife 12 inches double edge fixed blade
1095-00-391-1056 Ontario mark 3 navy knife 11 inch knife fixed blade
1095-01-515-9869 Ontario tak knife 10 inch knife fixed blade
1095-01-466-8569 masters of defence CQD MARK VI 9 inch knife fixed blade
1095-01-466-8569 benchmade Nimravus 9 inch knife fixed blade
1095-01-446-4348 benchmade auto 9050 switchblade with pouch
1095-01-456-4457 benchmade auto 9100 switchblade with pocket clip
5110-01-432-6191 benchmade 970s 8 inch folder
5110-01-451-0707 benchmade ascent/830 8 inch folder
5110-01-452-2215 benchmade ascent II 8 1/2 inch folder
4240-01-543-9618 benchmade 7 safety hook 4 1/4 inch hook safety knife
5110-01-467-2199 umoe schat harding inc pocket knife folding knife with hawkbill blade with can opener
5110-01-436-1548 Gerber Applegate-Fairbairn Combat Pocket Knife folding knife with pouch
5110-01-369-9340 Gerber Gator serrated folding knife with pouch
5110-01-385-7235 Gerber Gatormate serrated folding knife with pouch
5110-01-451-4944 Gerber covert single edge folding knife
5110-01-451-4943 Gerber covert folder folding knife with pocket clip and pouch
5110-01-516-3228 Gerber Applegate-Fairbairn Covert Combat Pocket Knife folding knife with pocket clip
5110-01-516-3243 Gerber Emerson Alliance automatic (fine edge) switchblade with pouch
5110-01-516-3244 Gerber Emerson Alliance automatic (serrated) switchblade with pouch
1095-01-431-3393 Gerber 45803 Guardian Back Up, Double Edge, Fine Edge Knife 7 1/2 in fix blade boot knife
5110-01-516-3237 Gerber 46971 E-Z Out Rescue Knife folding yellow handle safety knife with 3 1/2in blade with blunt tip on knife
7340-00-098-4327 army issue fliers knife old style knife with sharping stone
5110-01-432-6186 spyderco endura folding knife, thumb hole one hand knife with pocket clip
5110-01-480-9782 spyderco rescue knife folding knife, thumb hole one hand knife with pocket clip handle is blue
5110-01-451-6336 spyderco 1102r folding knife, thumb hole one hand knife with pocket clip
1095-01-522-6608 surefire ew-01 alpha knife folding knife with pocket clip
1095-01-533-1437 strider bd-cube 11 3/4 in fixed blade knife multi purpose
1095-01-531-5015 strider Strider/Buck Military Folder (SBMF) 9 inch knife folding knife
1095-01-531-5023 strider dbl fixed blade 8 1/4 in knife
1095-01-503-7230 strider eod fixed blade
1095-01-503-7231 strider eod k fixed blade
1095-01-525-2832 blackhawk CQD mark V fixed blade
1095-01-525-3772 blackhawk mark VI serrated fixed blade
1095-01-522-3776 blackhawk elishewitz phoenix fixed blade
1095-01-520-5900 blackhawk mark 1 auto switchblade
1095-01-520-5903 blackhawk mark 1 auto serrated switchblade
1095-01-521-9343 blackhawk keating hornet switchblade
1095-01-521-9358 blackhawk mpak fighter serated switchblade
1095-01-521-9360 blackhawk mark 2 plain edge switchblade
1095-01-523-5192 blackhawk tanto serrated switchblade
1095-01-525-2829 blackhawk 875 fighter serrated switchblade
1095-01-520-5904 blackhawk mark II serrated switchblade
1095-01-522-1055 blackhawk clip point serrated switchblade
1095-01-525-2823 blackhawk harkins triton serrated switchblade out the front
7340-01-527-7123 SOG seal pup fixed blade
7340-01-499-8271 SOG Pentagon fixed blade double edged dagger
7340-01-505-4587 SOG tiger shark big bowie knife
1095-01-496-4774 SOG desert dagger fixed blade double edged dagger
5110-01-530-5342 SOG trident tigerstripe folding knife
7340-01-530-5340 SOG M14 Mini Pentagon fixed blade double edged dagger
7340-01-454-1476 Cold Steel Trail Master big bowie knife
5110-01-536-5064 columbia river ryan model seven 6813K folding pocket knife with 3 1/2 in blade
5110-01-520-3582 skedco folding rescue knife made for cutting fabric or seat belts can be used as a glass punch
4240-01-505-1840 rothco inc survival knife kit hollow handle with finger saw, fish line/hooks slingshot screw off compass top
7340-01-487-6033 buck hunting knife model 120 fixed blade knife with leather sheath
组合工具
5110-01-451-0024 Buck X-Tract Multi-Tool Buck Multi-Tool
5110-01-385-7401 kershaw multi-tool needle nose vise grips with black pouch
5180-01-457-5621 Gerber off road tool kit needle nose pliers, folding saw and spade, axe and 2 D mag light
5180-01-516-3234 Gerber fire and rescue tool kit needle nose pliers, spade, axe, rescue shear, 2 D mag light, window punch in red pack
5110-01-394-6249 Gerber multi-tool silver needle nose with black pouch
5110-01-394-6252 Gerber multi-tool black needle nose with black pouch
5110-01-346-5339 Gerber multi-tool sliver blunt nose with black pouch
5110-01-516-3245 Gerber evolution pliers comes with 4 different jaws that are interchangeable
5110-01-462-3402 Gerber multi-tool kit kit with flashlight
5110-01-385-7354 Gerber multi-tool kit kit with 6 screwdriver bits
5110-01-425-7570 Leatherman supertool silver with black pouch
5110-01-430-5039 Leatherman supertool black with black pouch
5110-01-474-0894 Leatherman Crunch with black pouch
5110-01-456-0578 Leatherman Wave with leather pouch
5110-01-430-5042 SOG crosscut little folding scissors
5110-01-507-0228 SOG powerlock folding multi-tool
5180-01-435-3502 SOG paratool tool kit with flashlight 4 in 1 screwdriver in 3 pocket pouch 斧头/锯/砍刀
5110-01-435-3906 Camillus knife and ax set hunting knife with hooked blade hunters ax comes with sheath
5110-01-435-3909 Camillus knife and ax set hunting knife with drop point blade hunters ax comes with sheath
1095-01-515-9877 Ontario SP-16 SPAX 13 inch combat axe
4210-01-518-7244 american tomahawk co atc combat tomahawk
5110-00-720-0711 vaughan bushnell camp axe ui ea with sheath, handle is 13 inches long with a 1 3/4 pound head
4240-00-495-9131 paratech incorporated emergency escape and resuce ax ui ea steel handle with rubber sleeve
5120-01-363-3690 army issue mattock/axe 12in handle with 2 1/4lbs ax/mattock head with alice clip style carrier
5110-01-474-5393 kipper tool co machete and sheath ui ea 17in combination machete and bush hook, with black cordura sheath
5110-00-813-1286 army issue machete ui ea 18 inch blade (just the machete sheath must be order seprate)
8465-00-926-4932 army issue machete sheath ui ea machete sheath
5110-01-414-6756 Gerber Folding Hand Saw ui ea 7 1/2 inch saw blade, 15 3/4 inch unfolded, blade is replaceable
5110-01-518-8669 bahco folding hand saw ui ea 8 inch saw blade used for cutting green or dry wood
5110-00-570-6896 army issue finger saw ui ea 19.75in to 20.25in blade with rings at both ends
电力工兵特种工具
5180-00-408-1859 army issue tool kit ui kt holster, knife, and pliers wire cutter
5110-00-240-5943 army issue pocket knife ui ea workmans pocket knife
5120-00-247-2063 army issue pliers ui ea pliers wire cutter
5140-00-498-8898 army issue tool carrier/holster ui ea leather carrier for knife and pliers
排爆和爆破特种工具
5110-01-462-3400 Gerber Multi-Plier 600 DET black needle nose E.O.D tool w/blasting cap crimper with black pouch
5110-01-541-1449 Leatherman Fuse Black Oxide with Cap Crimper Black Nylon Sheath Model 830475 black finish needle nose tool w/blasting cap crimper with black nylon sheath
5110-01-541-1438 Leatherman Fuse Standard Stainless Finish w/ Cap Crimper Nylon Sheath Model 830471 steel finish needle nose tool w/blasting cap crimper with black pouch
5110-01-541-1195 Leatherman Wave Black Oxide with Cap Crimper Black Nylon Sheath Model 830489 ui ea black finish needle nose tool w'blasting cap crimper with nylon sheath
5110-01-541-1440 Leatherman wave/cap crimper ui ea stainless finish needle nose tool w'blasting cap crimper with leather sheath
5110-01-541-1201 Leatherman wave/cap crimper/nylon ui ea stainless finish needle nose tool w'blasting cap crimper with nylon sheath
5110-01-430-5051 Leatherman super tool ui ea black finish needle nose tool w'blasting cap crimper with woodland nylon sheath
5110-01-430-5037 Leatherman super tool ui ea stainless finish needle nose tool w'blasting cap crimper with nylon sheath
5110-01-430-5056 Leatherman super tool ui ea stainless finish needle nose tool w'blasting cap crimper with leather sheath
5110-01-430-5039 Leatherman super tool ui ea black finish needle nose tool w'blasting cap crimper with black nylon sheath
5110-01-430-5048 Leatherman super tool ui ea black finish needle nose tool w'blasting cap crimper with leather sheath
5120-00-029-0683 picatinny arsenal blasting cap crimper plier type w/fuse cutter cadmium or zinc finish
5120-01-313-6937 combat ѕimulation systems blasting cap crimper for SEAL team issue
1386-00-832-4175 navy issue craftsman's knife for EOD use nonsparking and nonmagnetic with AL32 curved point
5110-01-421-6391 navy issue pocket knife EOD issue pocket knife
1386-01-417-1263 misson mpk dive knife fix blade titanium knife EOD issue knife
6665-01-432-6212 misson mine probe 26 inches long
6665-01-432-6213 misson mine probe 17 inches long 3 piece kit plastic handle titanium section and tip
6665-01-444-1083 misson mine probe 6 1/2 inches long plastic handle titanium section and tip
5180-01-516-3229 Gerber Deluxe Mine Probe tool kit has eod multi-tool, flashlight, 3 piece titanium probe in black sheath
5180-01-516-3233 Gerber Mine Probe tool kit 3 piece titanium probe 3 titanium tips and 3 plastic tips in black sheath
磨刀工具
5110-01-514-7772 klawhorn industries inc military knife sharpener military card stye, ceramic honing surface
5110-01-514-7782 klawhorn industries inc hunting knife sharpener card type ceramic honing surface with sheath
5345-01-392-4011 DMT Sharpening Stone 8 x 3 inch coarse diamond sharpening stone
5345-01-392-6520 DMT Sharpening Stone 8 x 3 inch fine diamond sharpening stone
5345-01-529-6204 DMT Sharpening Stone 3 x 2 inch diamond sharpener
5345-01-438-3014 eze-lap diamond sharpener Sharpening Stone 6 inch fine diamond sharpener
5110-01-433-8695 Gerber knife sharpener 2 3/8 inch ceramic sharpener
5345-00-2151881 GSA 3 sided sharpening stone three grit stones coarse, medium and fine comes 1 pint of oil
5345-01-491-9076 brownells inc sharpening stone set arkansas stone set
5345-01-120-0383 elgin diamond products sharpening stone 4 inch long 500 grit medium stone