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    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

    发表于 2008-9-10 00:53 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式



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    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

    发表于 2008-9-10 01:31 | 显示全部楼层
    这和德军的功能一样啊。。。只是手柄贴片改动了一下。。。
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    [LV.5]常住居民I

    发表于 2008-9-10 09:54 | 显示全部楼层

    http://www.woodengift.com.cn/

    这个版本可能是为了给任何国家的士兵
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    [LV.3]偶尔看看II

    发表于 2008-9-10 09:58 | 显示全部楼层
    同意楼上
    全世界军队适用

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    发表于 2008-9-10 10:21 | 显示全部楼层
    嗯,昨天在国外网站也看到了,标志复古了。没太大的变化,不知道刀柄上的黑块是不是橡胶。
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

    发表于 2008-9-10 10:28 | 显示全部楼层
    咋不装个腰夹……
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    [LV.7]常住居民III

    发表于 2008-9-10 13:55 | 显示全部楼层
    士兵用这个合适吗??还是带个小点的比较爽。
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    [LV.5]常住居民I

    发表于 2008-9-10 14:47 | 显示全部楼层
    标志复古了。

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    发表于 2008-9-12 21:39 | 显示全部楼层
    这次官方一反常态啊,早早就把新款士兵登在主页上了,而且留言区里也有了最新的回答,我不会英语,用翻译软件也看不明白。
    哪位英语好的帮忙翻一下吧。谢了。
    地址在:http://www.victorinox.com/index. ... _msg=20080909165045这是问题。
    http://www.victorinox.com/index. ... _msg=20080911120512这是官方的回答。
    里面好象涉及到一个主刀背面打年份的问题。

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    发表于 2008-9-13 00:03 | 显示全部楼层
    09.09 New Soldiers Knife 2008

    This new knife looks amazing. I love the color of the handles and the design. Any ideas if/when this model will be available for the tourist/general public to purchase in knife shops in Switzerland? How much will this new knife cost? How much is the case?
    Will you still be producing the 1961 version or will it be discontinued?
    I'm really pleased Victorinox has won the order.
    这把新刀看起来很牛。我喜欢手柄的颜色和这个设计。谁知道什么时候游客和一般人能够在瑞士的刀店里面买到这一款?多少钱?刀套多少钱?
    你们还生产1961年版本或者会终止它吗?
    我真的很高兴维氏赢得了这个合同。

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    发表于 2008-9-13 00:21 | 显示全部楼层
    11.09 Soldiers Knife 2008

    Dear customer,

    thank you very much for your request dated September 09, 2008 and being interested in our products. We are pleased to answer your question.

    International sale to retail:
    Subject to further notice, we shall be entitled to sell the new soldier's knife also to the retail. Officially we will present this item to the retail for the first time at «Shot Show» in Orlando / USA, February 2009. First deliveries to our worldwide distribution network are not to be expected before spring 2009.

    Year of production:
    As in the predecessor model 0.8610.26, the year of production shall be stamped also in the new knife on the shaft of the large blade. The first batch of 10'000 units, which will be delivered to the army in December 08, will be stamped "08". For collectors we shall produce an extra quantity of pieces with year "08".

    The production of the «Swiss Soldier's knife 0.8610.26» will be discontinued this year. Except the logo, the key ring and the date of issue on the blade there is no difference between the «Pioneer» and the «Official Swiss Soldier's knife».

    0.8201.26 Pioneer
    0.8610.26 Official Swiss Soldier's knife

    If there is any further information that you require do not hesitate to contact us.

    Yours sincerely


    Victorinox AG
    Robert Elsener
    Quality manager


    亲爱的顾客:
    非常感谢你9月9日的查询并对我们的产品感兴趣。我们很高兴回答您的问题。

    国际零售:
    受未来的通知,我们将同样零售这款新的士兵刀。我们将在2009年2月美国奥兰多的Shot Show上首次将此新品发布于零售市场。而对我们全球零售网络的首次供货不会早于2009年春季。

    生产年份:
    正如其前任型号0.8610.26,生产年份也将被用钢印打在此款新刀的主刀轴部。首批于08年12月供应军队的10000套将被标上“08”。我们将为收集者多生产一批标注“08”的产品。

    “瑞士士兵刀0.8610.26”产品的生产今年将会终止。除了logo,钥匙环和刀刃上的日期以外,“先锋”和“瑞士士兵刀”之间没有其他区别。

    0.8201.26 Pioneer 先锋
    0.8610.26 Official Swiss Soldier's knife 瑞士士兵刀

    有任何其它问题请即联系我们。

    此致敬礼

    维氏
    罗伯特 伊斯那
    质量经理
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    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

     楼主| 发表于 2008-9-13 00:38 | 显示全部楼层

    http://www.heibor.com.cn/

    麻烦楼上的在给翻译一下.多谢

    September 8, 2008 - 9:51 PM
    Victorinox wins contract for new army knife
    The Swiss army has chosen to continue buying soldiers' knives from the company that's been supplying them for more than a century – Victorinox.
    The firm, which is Europe's largest cutlery maker and is based in Ibach in the central canton of Schwyz, on Monday signed a contract with the army's procurement unit, armasuisse, for 75,000 knives valued at SFr1.38 million ($1.22 million).

    The decision quashes fears that spread at home and abroad that a company outside Switzerland, including from China where many fakes are made, would be chosen to supply the knives for the army.

    A former member of the Swiss Senate last year even launched a petition called "Soldiers' pocket knives only Swiss made".

    Under rules of the Geneva-based World Trade Organization, contracts worth more than SFr250,000 have to be offered – with some exceptions - for tender internationally.

    Not surprisingly, there was relief and satisfaction at the Swiss company. The head of marketing at Victorinox, Urs Wyss, admitted the company hadn't been 100 per cent sure of securing the deal.

    "We had of course a lot of confidence. We in Ibach are very glad that we again get this order for the new soldier knives because it's a question of image when you can deliver to the Swiss army," he told swissinfo.

    Old age
    The current Swiss soldier's knife, introduced in 1961, had been showing signs of old age.

    "We noticed for example that modern weapon systems need a Phillips screwdriver and the old one didn't have such a tool," the head of communications at armasuisse, Kaj-Gunnar Sievert, told swissinfo.

    "We asked seven companies from Switzerland and abroad to offer us a knife and in the end we had four different types of knives that were tested." Tests took place in the laboratory and in the field in July.

    "Just to give you an idea, we made crash tests with these knives. We used them till they broke. We gave them to specials units in the armed forces and they used them during regular military training and exercises.

    "In the end you have a mix between three different criteria – the technical, military and commercial aspects, and then we chose the model with the best price/performance ratio."

    No beauty contest
    Asked whether any knives of the competition came close to the performance of those from Victorinox, Sievert put it this way: "We didn't hold a beauty contest so in the end you have a winner and the others were not as good as the winning knife," he said.

    Some might argue that the Swiss knife was always going to win, a claim that Sievert also put in its place.

    "We are the procurement agency and we have a process in which we test and evaluate all the materials. We were looking for the best for our soldiers."

    The knife, which will be handed out for the first time during next year's recruit school, is rather different from the current model, which features silver anodised handles.

    "It's a new generation of knife... you can for example open the big blade with one hand because it has a one-hand opening system. It's a lockable blade. You can also lock the screwdriver," Wyss explained.

    "The handle is also different because there are two different plastics which are injected together – a hard one and a softer one, which means that when you put it on a table, it doesn't slide away. And the shape is more ergonomic than the model of 1961. You see quite a big difference."

    The big question army knife enthusiasts and collectors will have is whether they too will be able to buy such a new knife.

    "The contract is being specified right now but we think it will also be available in the retail business for the public," Wyss said.

    swissinfo, Robert Brookes

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    [LV.7]常住居民III

    发表于 2008-9-13 07:46 | 显示全部楼层
    全世界军队适用

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    发表于 2008-9-13 11:19 | 显示全部楼层
    haha越来越长了

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    发表于 2008-9-13 11:39 | 显示全部楼层

    http://www.jianshen360.cn/

    括号里面是我自己加的


    维氏赢得了性的军刀合同
    瑞士军队选择继续从已经供应了他们超过一个世纪的维氏公司采购士兵刀。这家位于Schwyz中部Ibach 的欧洲最大刀具公司在周一和军队采购单位armasuisse签订了一份7万5000把刀共价值1百38万瑞士法郎(1百22万美元)的合同。(这样算一把就是16.3美元,折合111人民币,我们这价格不知道将会是多少。)
    这个决定平息了许多在国内外流传的担心。有人担心国外(瑞士以外)的公司,包括生产了许多仿制品的中国公司将会被选中为军队提供军刀。(老外也支持国货)

    一位前议员去年甚至发起了“军刀必须国产”的请愿。

    根据日内瓦的WTO条例,超过25万瑞郎的交易必须有国际招标的免责条款。 (反对瑞士地方保护主义,哈哈

    并不令人吃惊,瑞士公司很满意。维氏的市场部老大Urs Wyss,承认公司并不能百分百锁定这个交易。

    “我们当然很自信,我们很高兴在Ibach又一次得到了新士兵刀的合同因为什么时候可以提供给瑞士军队是个形象问题。”他告诉swissinfo(应该是采访的媒体)。(瑞士军队是维氏认为的自留地,虽然也没有几个兵,也就定了7万多把,不知道是不是人手一把)

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    发表于 2008-9-13 11:49 | 显示全部楼层
    旧时光

    现在的瑞士士兵刀是1961年首创的,是旧时光的标志。

    “我们注意到例如现代工具需要一个十字螺丝刀但是旧的士兵刀没有这个工具”瑞士军队采购部通讯长官Kaj-Gunnar Sievert对swissinfo说(哥们的话真的有点太直白了...)

    "我们问了瑞士国内外的7家提过给我们刀的公司,最后我们搞到了4把不同类型的刀用于测试。”测试7月间在实验室和野外展开。

    “你看,我们进行了冲撞测试。我们一直用到它们折断。我们把到给了军队的不同特别单位。他们在日常军事训练中使用了它们。

    “最后有了三个不同的标准:工艺,军事和商业。我们选择了具有最高性价比的型号。”

    (恐怕没说还有一个民族自尊心的标准吧)

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    发表于 2008-9-13 13:00 | 显示全部楼层
    不是选美

    当问到是否有竞争对手接近维氏的表现,Sievert说“我们不是搞选美所以最后有了个胜利者而其他的没有那么好。”

    一些人可能会说瑞士刀老是会赢。就像Sievert声明的那样。

    “我们是采购机关。我们有测试和评价所有材料的过程。我们为士兵选择最好的。”

    这些不同于现有的银色铝柄型号的新刀到最早将被分发到明年的新兵学校。

    “这是新一代刀因为有单手开刀系统所以你可以一手打开刀刃。主刀能锁定,你也能锁定螺丝刀。”Wyss解释说。(拜托这设计出来几百年了好吧。。。)

    “手柄也不同了,因为软塑胶和硬塑胶注模在一起。这意味着你把它放在桌子上,它不会滑走。而且这个形状更人体工程学,和1961年的大大不同!”(瑞士的桌子腿都不一样长吗...)
    军刀狂热爱好者和收集者的最大问题是他们是否也可购买此刀。

    “目前合同是特供的但是我们认为以后在零售渠道也将推出。”wyss说

    swissinfo,罗伯特 布鲁克斯

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    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

     楼主| 发表于 2008-9-13 13:03 | 显示全部楼层
    多谢各位
    那几块是软的防滑垫,不知道什么手感

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    发表于 2008-9-13 14:18 | 显示全部楼层
    这刀不错

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    发表于 2008-9-13 14:20 | 显示全部楼层
    我原来也有这把刀,后转了,感觉很后悔
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